Paulbots 4 Primaries – Putting Kline At Risk
John Kline is too liberal and big Government for the Ron Paulers.
From MN for Ron Paul State Director Marianne Stebbins… “No one from the Campaign asked Gerson to run, nor did he ask us if it was advisable. If he had asked, I would have asked him if he already had a million set aside for the campaign, as he would need twice that, and even then the odds of success wouldn’t be good.”
That was from the CD2 GOP Facebook page. Clearly the Ron Paul campaign doesn’t support Copngressman Kline since their Queen B’s response is to simply say, don’t run if you can’t beat him? Not, Kline has served the GOPO and his constituents well. Not GOP rah rah and team building, Paul building. Its their right, but also mine to point that out so people aren’t fooled by the sweet aroma of big tent and welcome them in. This isn’t about us, this is about them getting power.
(and no not all, but their leadership is and until they purge their wayward leaders like we did of Carey & Sutton, they all will suffer the stereotype deserved them by their Queen B.)
There was a hush hush the day of the CD2 Convention that Kline got booed. Hmmmmmm
Any money that Kline has to spend fighting off a challenge from the extreme right of the party. (OH yes, if the mantra is that establishment candidates are too moderate Big Government liberals you are going to be labelled as the extreme by the press and general public. And thankfully, you are now in charge of the party, so we’re all extremists now. )
The new CD2 is not a cakewalk for Kline. If things nationally go bad and the discontent towards Romney being fostered by Paulers continues and spreads to the swing voters and in turn down ticket to endorsed Republicans like Kline, Cravaak and Paulsen, it could tip the scales nationally to Obama and Democrats running for Congress, and that could place Kline and other Republican candidate for Congress and the Legislature at risk.
The Ron Paul campaign by way of the organizing of the Queen B brought the people waging war with in the party to us. It gave them the ability to do what they are doing. They can’t use them to win Delegates and endorsements, then disavow any knowledge or responsibility. They must own them and take responsibility for their actions. Whether as belligerent CD Officers or candidates. You brought them here, you empowered and trained them, you own them.
“John Kline is too liberal and big Government for the Ron Paulers.”
False. It should read Kline is too status quo “statist”
Like a good soldier, he prefers to listen to those higher in the command structure rather than the peons that elected him.
…….Don’t be deluded into devisively advocating that it’s just Ron Paulers that are disenchanted with Kline. There are many MNGOP in the District that aren’t exactly enamoured with Kline’s historic incumbent peformance. Despite past large constituent pleadings to the contrary he supported TARP and other onerous big government policies,including all of the things Gerson correctly points out in his press release.
Your opinion that Kline has served his constituents well is objectively highly debateble and you know it. Though Gerson may not win, his points are well taken. Kline, Cravaak and Paulsen must like all politicians be held accountable by past actions and judged on their merits by the voters. If Gerson’s objective is to do precisely that with Kline, I’m for it as are many others and not just Ron Paulers.
It would seem that if any MNGOPer has an issue with an incumbent you conventiently and perhaps paranoically slam the ron Paul supporters as being devisive. Particularly against to the old traditional bible-thumping war-mongering RINO church club that you somehow believe makes up the majority of Minnesotan Republicans.
So, your belief as to who constitutes the majority of Minnesota Republicans is to be accepted without question, but those who know they are the majority of Minnesota Republicans, having been so for decades, doesn’t count for anything? You just keep on believing that. You valued principles will lead to complete defeat of them.
It was never stated that the majority of Minnesota Republicans don’t count for anything. It inexplicably somehow seems to be your perception and of some other old guard types of late. Of course they count! It seems very puzzling that when anyone within the party attempts to hold Kline accountable for his past actions,the Kline CULTISTS viciously lash out at the most convenient scapegoat du jour instead of seriously and objectively considering the validity of the arguments. Instead, childishly shoot the messenger and ignore the message.
I do know and it is general knowledge that the MNGOP has not been successful in turning Minnesota into a Red State for decades. Without a change in direction and a return to our prime principles of Liberty, individual freedom, properties rights, and adherence to the Constitution, the probability of making that happen will become increasingly problematical, particularly with the State’s rapidly changing demographics. Continuing to push the traditional “social conservative” agenda of theological dogma, the maintenance of the military-industrial-complex and the NEOCON global empire as Republican “mainstream” is doomed to failure. Not just ideologically, but economically as well.
You will find that the “traditional” Bible-thumping Warmongering MNGOP agenda and that mindset will become less and less effectual in attracting and retaining new prospective Republicans as the nation continues sinking into the economic abyss.
Don’t know about yours but my valued principles are those that are stipulated in the US Constitution, the Bill of rights, and the Declaration of Independence. It seems you don’t since you believe those principles will be defeated. You may be right. In fact many of those principles have already have been “pragmatically” defeated by both political parties.
With such a viewpoint it makes one wonder if you really are a Republican and that over a life time, you’ve slipped into the “dark side” and despair.
In the final analysis, the issue is not merely your belief or mine, but the beliefs of the persons that will eventually cast their votes. Yet even that may be problematical since the election process is essentially corrupted nationwide.
The challenge for the MNGOP and the GOP in general to is to educate and convince the voters in the validity our forgotten Constitutional principles, but not with disingenuous rhetoric but in concrete actions as well.